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		<title>By: SpartaChris</title>
		<link>http://moondogsports.com/2009/05/27/michael-vick-deserves-a-second-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-4342</link>
		<dc:creator>SpartaChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not trying to justify or minimize Stallworth&#039;s actions. They are absolutely reprehensible, and he shouldn&#039;t be allowed to play another down in the league again in my mind. And to be honest, the NFL really needs to crack down on drunk drivers playing in the league. Those guys make more than enough money to hire a driver for the night, and many of the teams provide a safe ride for them and their car as a service. There&#039;s really no excuse to get behind the wheel when you&#039;ve been drinking and the league needs to put a stop to that. Like you, I am tired of the cop out excuses.

That said, what I was trying to do was explain why Vicks actions are, at their core, worse than Stallworth&#039;s. 

I don&#039;t believe for a second that Stallworth intended to kill the pedestrian. When he carelessly climbed behind the wheel, it wasn&#039;t with the intent on taking a life that night. He didn&#039;t set out to deliberately run down a pedestrian in the middle of the road. 

Vick on the other hand intended to torture and murder those dogs in the most brutal of ways. He starved them to make them angry, and those who didn&#039;t fight well enough were either drown, hung, had their heads slammed against the concrete or were electrocuted, often times through the genitals. Vick&#039;s crew created rape stands and frequently stole animals from the neighborhood, household pets, to use as training tools. 

When you compare the two crimes, Stallworth&#039;s and Vicks, one definitely sticks out as far more grotesque and heinous than the other. And that isn&#039;t Stallworth&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not trying to justify or minimize Stallworth&#8217;s actions. They are absolutely reprehensible, and he shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to play another down in the league again in my mind. And to be honest, the NFL really needs to crack down on drunk drivers playing in the league. Those guys make more than enough money to hire a driver for the night, and many of the teams provide a safe ride for them and their car as a service. There&#8217;s really no excuse to get behind the wheel when you&#8217;ve been drinking and the league needs to put a stop to that. Like you, I am tired of the cop out excuses.</p>
<p>That said, what I was trying to do was explain why Vicks actions are, at their core, worse than Stallworth&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe for a second that Stallworth intended to kill the pedestrian. When he carelessly climbed behind the wheel, it wasn&#8217;t with the intent on taking a life that night. He didn&#8217;t set out to deliberately run down a pedestrian in the middle of the road. </p>
<p>Vick on the other hand intended to torture and murder those dogs in the most brutal of ways. He starved them to make them angry, and those who didn&#8217;t fight well enough were either drown, hung, had their heads slammed against the concrete or were electrocuted, often times through the genitals. Vick&#8217;s crew created rape stands and frequently stole animals from the neighborhood, household pets, to use as training tools. </p>
<p>When you compare the two crimes, Stallworth&#8217;s and Vicks, one definitely sticks out as far more grotesque and heinous than the other. And that isn&#8217;t Stallworth&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: JM Van Horn</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Van Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid comments SpartaChris.  Vick&#039;s actions are more reprehensible when it comes to the thought he put behind it and the follow through.  But like you said, he was not charged based on that, rather for funding a betting ring.

The only one I take issue with is the one where you said Donte was just stupid and careless.  This bothers me is a common excuse I hear on a monthly basis when other drunk driving cases are determined.  I just find that it is a cope out for those behind the wheel.  Especially when the drunk driver is normally the one who walks away without injuries.

Thanks for the response, always good to hear solid rebuttal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid comments SpartaChris.  Vick&#8217;s actions are more reprehensible when it comes to the thought he put behind it and the follow through.  But like you said, he was not charged based on that, rather for funding a betting ring.</p>
<p>The only one I take issue with is the one where you said Donte was just stupid and careless.  This bothers me is a common excuse I hear on a monthly basis when other drunk driving cases are determined.  I just find that it is a cope out for those behind the wheel.  Especially when the drunk driver is normally the one who walks away without injuries.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response, always good to hear solid rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: SpartaChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpartaChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, Mike Vick deserves to be able to make a living, but it doesn&#039;t have to be in the NFL. 

And to set the record straight, he went to jail for illegally spearheading an interstate gambling operation. Unfortunately he was never tried, nor sentenced for the torture and abuse against animals. 

In any event, the gambling ring he was running ought to be enough to keep him out of the NFL. Frankly, I don&#039;t see how anyone could trust him to lead their football team. The guy lost millions, so what makes you think he wouldn&#039;t throw a football game to make a bit of extra cash on the side? And given his history of being a turd, do you really think you could trust him to do the right thing?

Put another way, would you want him to play for YOUR team?

And comparisons to Donte Stallworth are laughable.. Sure, Donte deserves to be removed from the NFL as well, but not at all for the same reasons as Vick. Vick&#039;s actions were deliberately cruel. Donte was just stupid and careless. That doesn&#039;t make what Donte did any better, but when you compare the intent of the actions at face value, Vicks actions are far far worse than Stallworths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Mike Vick deserves to be able to make a living, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be in the NFL. </p>
<p>And to set the record straight, he went to jail for illegally spearheading an interstate gambling operation. Unfortunately he was never tried, nor sentenced for the torture and abuse against animals. </p>
<p>In any event, the gambling ring he was running ought to be enough to keep him out of the NFL. Frankly, I don&#8217;t see how anyone could trust him to lead their football team. The guy lost millions, so what makes you think he wouldn&#8217;t throw a football game to make a bit of extra cash on the side? And given his history of being a turd, do you really think you could trust him to do the right thing?</p>
<p>Put another way, would you want him to play for YOUR team?</p>
<p>And comparisons to Donte Stallworth are laughable.. Sure, Donte deserves to be removed from the NFL as well, but not at all for the same reasons as Vick. Vick&#8217;s actions were deliberately cruel. Donte was just stupid and careless. That doesn&#8217;t make what Donte did any better, but when you compare the intent of the actions at face value, Vicks actions are far far worse than Stallworths.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Pinkies Up!!! Rat Pinkies Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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